Comments on: BB2B: Route Now Including Belgium

By: Unca Doug

Unca Doug — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:23:09 +0000

Nancy, I did that yesterday and saw the paragraph "Critical reaction" that you copied. The footnote [21] indicates that is taken from an October 28, 2009, OpEd by JANET ALBRECHTSEN, Has Anyone Read the Copenhagen Agreement? in The Wall Street Journal. What I want to read are the actual words in the treaty which you said you plan on reading. I can not seem to locate the words that Christopher Monckton and Janet Albrechtsen are basing their conclusions and statement on. Can you find them?

By: Nancy Wentworth

Nancy Wentworth — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:31:45 +0000

I am not making this stuff up dude.

By: Nancy Wentworth

Nancy Wentworth — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 05:25:08 +0000

Doug, go to home…..then click on the Event Banner then click cop15 that Roz has hyperlinked, then scroll to the bottom of the page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference_2009

By: UncaDoug

UncaDoug — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:20:07 +0000

Nancy, please post a link to the document. I would like to read it, too. Have been unable to find it.

By: Nancy Wentworth

Nancy Wentworth — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 17:38:07 +0000

I am not up for savataging anything. I just clicked the Wlkpedia page that Roz Savage is referring people to about this upcoming event and low and behold it states as follows.

Critical reaction
In October 2009, conservative commentators reacted critically to the draft Copenhagen treaty. Lord Christopher Monckton, a British parliamentarian, has alleged that a proposed Copenhagen agreement will create a World government, under the auspices of the United Nations, which will have “the power to directly intervene in the financial, economic, tax and environmental affairs of all the nations that sign the Copenhagen treaty.” He warned that wealthy nations may be obliged under the treaty to pay an “adaptation debt” to developing nations and to surrender their sovereignty.[21]

I am all for protecting our environment but certainly not at the expense of losing our sovereignty. I have not read the treaty but plan on it.

By: Joan in Atlanta

Joan in Atlanta — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:51:13 +0000

If anyone can look at the Extreme Ice Survey and not acknowledge that glaciers and ice caps all over the world are disappearing, then their level of denial is beyond rational discourse.

http://www.extremeicesurvey.org/index.php/index.php

I find it insane that the same people who are usually screaming “What about the children?” are the ones who buy into nonsensical conspiracy theories like climate change is a big money-making hoax and the left wants to destroy capitalism. The truth is, while I may only live to see the beginnings of hardships due to climate change and the unsustainable mode of living we have today, it’s the next couple generations who will really suffer for our inaction. You’d think they would at least care about that enough to pull their head out of the sand.

By: Unca Doug

Unca Doug — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:43:18 +0000

Please read the following papers by Dr. James Hansen and his team at NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies which may be downloaded at his website http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/

Jan. 13 2009: 2008 Global Temperature Analysis
Jan. 14, 2008: Solar and Southern Oscillations: GISS 2007 Temperature Analysis

If these papers and discussions are just too much to comprehend, you would probably benefit most from a series of videos which explain the science in very clear and simple terms. I recommend starting with this one … http://is.gd/4QDXZ

By: Unca Doug

Unca Doug — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 06:37:12 +0000

Sindy, may I suggest a bit more research as what you wrote above clearly shows you have an incorrect understanding of the science. Please read the following papers by Dr. James Hansen and his team at NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies which may be downloaded at his website http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/

Jan. 13 2009: 2008 Global Temperature Analysis
Jan. 14, 2008: Solar and Southern Oscillations: GISS 2007 Temperature Analysis

If these papers and discussions are just too much to comprehend, you would probably benefit most from a series of videos which explain the science in very clear and simple layman’s terms. I recommend you start with this one … http://is.gd/4QDXZ

There is an abundance more fundamental information at RealClimate.org and ClimateProgress.org

By: Sindy

Sindy — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 00:43:12 +0000

Global-warming alarmists are using the myth of climate change to impose an embryonic socialist world government. Following the collapse of communism, the West’s progressive elites desperately searched for a viable ideological alternative. They found it in environmentalism. Have you lined your pockets thuroughly?
Although the Green movement wraps itself in the flag of empirical science, it represents the very opposite: a dogma that provides meaning and purpose to its rabid followers. The ideology justifies massive tax increases and government control of the economy; it seeks to cripple free enterprise and curtail market-driven growth. Making money off us, or maybe a little kickstart of $5K for starters?
Global warming is the greatest fraud of our time. The overwhelming scientific evidence shows that, rather than getting hotter, the Earth’s temperatures are cooling. Increasing numbers of leading scientists are challenging the flawed computer models used by eco-alarmists.
If the Earth’s temperatures are no longer rising, then how can CO2 emissions be responsible for global warming? How could previous dramatic increases in global temperatures – such as the end of the Ice Age – have taken place without concentrations of CO2? The answer is obvious: Carbon emissions are not connected to fluctuations in global temperatures.
The mad drive for an international cap-and-trade system is really geared toward achieving the left’s long-sought goal: the destruction of democratic capitalism and national sovereignty.
Nancy Wentworth, you are 100% correct. Let’s save the planet, but let’s listen to people with credibility while doing it. Love the earth, save the planet, stop idiots from ruining our credibility.

By: Unca Doug

Unca Doug — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:00:25 +0000

It seems to me whoever posted the Ustinov quote intended to insult Roz and those who support and agree with her, and to diminish her cause and the message she is taking to Copenhagen by way of Big Ben and Brussels. The challenge was extended to a presumed impolite Peter impostor. If it was intended as some kind of compliment, please excuse my misinterpretation.

By: Mary

Mary — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:36:39 +0000

Have you ever heard of Peter Ustinov?

http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Peter_Ustinov/

By: Unca Doug

Unca Doug — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:23:05 +0000

Peter, if you are still present, I challenge you to read David Suzuki's November 5 article Inaction on climate change comes with a huge price tag -- all 733 words -- and watch this series of six videos of his 50-minute February 23, 2006, address at the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives ... and then reconsider your statement "her vice [was] that what she thought didn’t amount to much."

By: carol in oregon

carol in oregon — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:34:59 +0000

ALOHA ROZ from OREGON! We are so inspired and proud of you
work, MAHALO for your energy… Enjoying sharing your books!
was great to see you in Portland! love the new video,
“Carrying the world on your shoulders!” WOW…!…
so glad you are out there and making a difference, we are
walking with you in spirit and hearts… sent you some cash
to support your walk, sending hugs, love, peace, energy… Carol
in Oregon…

By: Nancy Wentworth

Nancy Wentworth — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:43:25 +0000

forgive me for saying so but I don’t like the sound of this…

Critics have admonished Lord Monckton for his colorful language. He has certainly been vigorous. In his exposé of the draft Copenhagen treaty in St. Paul, he warned Americans that “in the next few weeks, unless you stop it, your president will sign your freedom, your democracy and your prosperity away forever.” Yet his critics fail to deal with the substance of what he says.

By: Nancy Wentworth

Nancy Wentworth — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:36:11 +0000

In October 2009, conservative commentators reacted critically to the draft Copenhagen treaty. Lord Christopher Monckton, a British parliamentarian, has alleged that a proposed Copenhagen agreement will create a World government, under the auspices of the United Nations, which will have “the power to directly intervene in the financial, economic, tax and environmental affairs of all the nations that sign the Copenhagen treaty.” He warned that wealthy nations may be obliged under the treaty to pay an “adaptation debt” to developing nations and to surrender their sovereignty.[21]

Say what?????

By: Claire in Los Angeles

Claire in Los Angeles — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 08:08:38 +0000

Roz, UncaDoug’s idea is pure genius! What a way to have a presence on this walk! Plus you could get organizations to sponsor you via an ad. on Baby Brocade’s “body”!! I love it!

By: Peter

Peter — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:58:49 +0000

Her virtue was that she said what she thought, her vice that what she thought didn’t amount to much.

By: Unca Doug

Unca Doug — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:52:56 +0000

wheels … don’t forget to add wheels … wheels would ease the pulling. Another stout, please!

By: Unca Doug

Unca Doug — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:44:10 +0000

Oh … if only …

Sorry I will miss this trek … but I will be there in spirit … hmmm, all this talk about beer gave me an idea how to solve the conundrum of lugging the camera equipment without dislocating one’s back: Get Richard to build a quick replica scale model of Brocade … including handles and tethers for walkers to grab on to.

Like Budweiser Clydesdale Horse Drawn Beer Wagon, hitch consenting Rozlings to the Baby Brocade, load up the cameras and gear … and pull together … pull pull pull … together. Along the way, pack assorted replenishments of lagers, ales, porters and stouts so you can properly call the jolly parade Big Ben to Bruxelles Belgium Baby Beer Brocade. Save me a bottle of stout if you would, please!